EDINBURGH FRINGE 2024
Interview
TOMAS
VALENINA FADDA
& LEONARDO
ANGELO TROFA
THE GUMMY BEARS'
GREAT WAR
C ARTS | C venues | C alto - studio
THEATRE / PUPPETRY / CONTEMPORARY
Aug 1-12, 14-25: TICKETS
JULY 31, 2024
At dawn, the nation of the Gummy Bears declares war against the nation of the Dinosaurs. The Gummies will prepare for war, there will be a battle, and the Dinosaurs will win the fight. But even if the outcome is tragically obvious, the question remains: What makes the candies so obstinate? The Gummy Bears’ Great War is an object-theatre show that takes place on a table, with real candies, small lights, and few spectators. An existential tragicomedy about our search for meaning.
Hi Angelo, Valentina and Leonardo, it’s lovely to talk with you both ahead of your Edinburgh Fringe UK debut, how’s your build up to the festival going?
Amidst many opposing emotions, we are rehearsing and preparing everything we need for our month in Scotland. We are struggling with many pounds of Bears, each with their own emotionality and needs, it is very difficult to tune everyone in!
Are there any nerves ahead of The Gummy Bears’ Great War run at C Arts?
Very much so! The Edinburgh Fringe has always been at the top of our desires and now that we are only a few days away from its realisation, tension and excitement are running high! We are very excited and look forward to introducing you to our Bears.
This has been a 15 year journey, what inspired you to bring The Gummy Bears’ Great War to the fringe, was this always the dream?
Since the debut, we realised that this work had something special. We found that we had discovered a path that combines creativity and intensity. It is probably our most bizarre but also our most honest show. When Leonardo and Valentina proposed to me to bring it to Fringe I thought it was a wonderful idea. In such a diverse festival we are sure that there is also a place for our out-of-the-box show.
What have been some of the biggest changes the show has gone through since its premiere?
Over the years we have perfected the technical part, which is fundamental in this work. We found more and more accurate solutions to be able to make the table where the performance takes place more functional to the story being told. Our goal was to translate the theatrical box into a small one, with lights and sound but also to make our small scene totally autonomous, like a self-sufficient raft ready for a long journey.
And what does Edinburgh Fringe mean to you all?
We have always looked at the Edinburgh Fringe with great interest, as one looks at a destination to be reached. The idea that for almost a month artists, practitioners, and theater lovers from different parts of the world would meet in the same city has always fascinated us. We find it highly stimulating to be within a festival that has distinguished itself by its history, a kind of revenge against an “official theatre” that fails to be inclusive. This is what the Fringe means to us: feeling in the right place.
What was the feeling like for you all to get to premiere The Gummy Bears’ Great War at Festival Strabismi, did you imagine you would get the type of reaction you got for the show?
It was the first performance of the show. Until then friends, colleagues, and operators did not believe we were serious when we talked about a show to be performed entirely with candies. Festival Strabismi was the first to welcome our idea with curiosity. We didn't quite know what to expect, the narrative was about the nation of Gummy Bears declaring war on the more powerful nation of Dinosaurs, for us it was a pretext to talk about defeat, but how would it be received? There was immediately great enthusiasm, and it has since been a guest at numerous festivals. Before the debut we also had doubts but then thanks to the audience we realised that a show with candy could be done.
"For the Fringe we outdid ourselves, we prepared a small box with many good luck amulets, only at the end we could tell you if it worked!"
Can you tell me a little bit about how The Gummy Bears’ Great War came about, what inspired you to create this play?
The show took a very long time to develop, and it is difficult to reconstruct all the elements that competed. Over the years it has been rewritten many times before going on stage. Certainly, there is a memory of an experience that perhaps we all had as children: before eating a Gummy Bear, we would give it a voice and then we would chew on it, killing it. The show was born from the idea that that very improbable object could be animated by a heroic spirit.
What would you say have been the most interesting things you’ve discovered about yourself in the process of bringing The Gummy Bears’ Great War to the stage?
A solid and compact working group has been created around this show. Working in harmony has always been a goal of our company, but trying to invent a language together, whether technical or dramaturgical, requires great discipline on everyone's part. We have certainly discovered that we can bring different skills to the table without giving up the pleasure of staying and working together driven by a common goal.
Angelo: what was the message you wanted to say with this show?
More than a message I think the show asks some questions. What does it mean to lose? Why do we take action even if we have no chance of success? Is there something that defines us beyond our achievements?
If you had only 3 words you could choose to describe The Gummy Bears’ Great War what would they be?
Defeat, bravery, candies
What has the process been like for you all working on this production?
It was very long, it lasted for years. For a long time, we couldn't find a key. To give value to our main characters, the Candy Bears, was no easy feat since they were too small to take their own space on a stage. It was years of research, of rehearsals without results, but at one point, working on another show, we came up with the idea of reducing the stage space to the size of a table. By reducing the space the Bears were no longer so small and everything could be proportioned to them. We literally locked ourselves in a dark room for months, so by rehearsing, making mistakes and corrections we gave birth to our work
And how important is the creative collaboration between a writer and performers actor and their when working on a unique show like this?
In this case, I don't think there was a clear separation between roles. I perceive this show to be a product that belongs equally to all of us in the cast. The working process that we set up made sure that at the base there was a deep and intimate sharing of the artistic point of view of the show. During the rehearsals, everything flowed in the same direction in a very spontaneous way.
Do you have some routines or superstitions before you head out on stage?
We are an Italian company, so we are very superstitious! In addition to traditional theatre superstitions, all the members of the show and all their helpers are equipped with a shiny red cornetto for good luck bought in Naples, the most superstitious city in Italy! For the Fringe we outdid ourselves, we prepared a small box with many good luck amulets, only at the end we could tell you if it worked!
Where did your passion for theatre and performing come from?
Our company was born in 2008 but we started working together many years earlier in the training period. We were very young and we all have different stories behind us but what we have in common has always been the desire to search for a new language so that we can bring together seemingly distant elements, such as the grotesque and tragedy, candies and poetry.
How did Batisfera come about and how close have you been able to stick to the mission statement of the company?
Batisphere was born from the energy of four young people who wanted to smash the world with their ideas: Valentina Fadda, Felice Montervino, Vanessa Podda, and Angelo Trofa. Over the years we have lost and found each other a thousand times, but that driving force that gave birth to our company is still there and we hope it will assist us at the Fringe.
What advice would you offer anyone wanting to start their journey in theatre?
Study. Be in listening. Whatever that means for you and your sensibilities. Read, see performances, volunteer at a festival, assist, write, put yourself in a position to welcome as much as possible without presumption and know-it-all.
And finally, what would you like your 2024 fringe audiences to take away from The Gummy Bears’ Great War?
We try to tell about that feeling that, despite adverse conditions, drives us to persevere, to keep going and persist despite little or no chance of success. Our Gummy Bears are convinced that this attitude is about their own nature, their way of being. Is this attitude the basis of defeat? That is a question we leave in the hands of the audience. A fruit-flavoured question.